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Hope Valley

July 5th, 2010

I took this shot from the point known locally as "The Surprise" looking out over Hope Valley in Derbyshire.

The village of Hathersage is visible in the bottom of the valley.

Nikon D90, Nikkor 18-105mm VR, Photomatix Pro 2.3, Adobe Photoshop CS5.

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Comments from the Community

Posted By: Tim H.
about 13 years, 9 months ago
That is just beautiful. It's like a really awesome painting!
Posted By: Darshada
about 13 years, 9 months ago
Incredible!
Posted By: Lostnumber
about 13 years, 9 months ago
Incredible shot.
Posted By: Ben Gustafson
about 13 years, 9 months ago
Yes I must agree with everyone above; this photo is stunning. I've been waiting for something like this...thanks for taking me somewhere I could never go. ;)
Posted By: merlin
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Awesome! More amazing that it didn't come from Chris Gin...
Posted By: Clyde
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Wow.. Gorgeous. Not much wrong with this as a photograph and a wallpaper. Cheers :)
If I had to be hypercritical, maybe there is a smidge too much processing in the sky ?
Posted By: jrm125
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Feels like one of those beautiful paintings as the Smithsonian documenting America's grandeur.

Thank you submitter.
Posted By: FotoFelix
about 13 years, 8 months ago
It immediately reminded me of the "Great Valley" from "Land Before Time" :-)

Very nice indeed.

Thanks for sharing.
Posted By: Euphytose
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Looks like a painting, I love it.
Posted By: Frostmint
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I can't see a single flaw in this image.
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I am not sure what is all the praise about here. Yes... I totally agree a very fantastic vista is in front of our eyes unfortunately that's where it ends. I believe that Photomatix successfully killed this wallpaper. This is what I call clearly an over processed image. I know many of you can argue that this can be viewed artistically.. yes it may be but the processing makes this image very unappealing with butchered sky and exaggerated colors to make matters worse I don't believe this image can be rescued at this stage. This is a good example of what HDR is not supposed to look like. I would have rather have a blown out sky but perfectly exposed foreground but in this case the sky looks horrendous and so is the foreground. Sorry for being so critical but I would rather have original raw image. Such a perfect place but ruined with processing.
This comment is rated: insightful
Posted By: tamashi84
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I used to live about 15 minutes from this view; it is truly breathtaking. In years past there have been a number of accidents here from people taking their eyes off the road, forgetting the turn and driving off the road. They finally put in places for people to pull over. :) Good thinking if you ask me. Love the picture!
Posted By: Jemima PD
about 13 years, 8 months ago
While I prefer natural images to speak for themselves and be as untouched as possible, (apart from a contrast tweak to take out glare) there is no doubt that this is a breath-taking scene and beautifully balanced in composition. It takes a 'painterly' eye to see it this way, so well done waveydavey. I bet many people will download it.
Posted By: josephwm
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I have to agree with Igor here, the composition is great, but the image itself is ruined by the post-processing. While I don't hate HDRs, the weirdly underexposed sky confuses my eyes, and distracts me from the interesting foreground.

Photomatix has a light smoothing option for HDRs, increasing would have kept the needed contrast between the sky and the ground, while maintaining the HDR look (which looks good on those rocks).
This comment is rated: insightful
Posted By: fool
about 13 years, 8 months ago
agreed w/ igor & josephwm
Posted By: zombie
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I do agree the sky does look a little overprocessed, but for that, it's still a great wallpaper and an incredible picture. I would definitely drive off the road looking at the view!
Posted By: shorty
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I was just visiting this area a few days ago! Then I come here to get a new wallpaper and what a surprise (ha!) to find this. Wonderful shot, makes for a great background for my phone.
Posted By: rejectEd
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Loving this pic even with the slightly over done sky.
No idea what Igor is on about (again). Always telling others how to behave and then laying into someone for a perfectly fine image like this. Ruined ? I think not. Maybe you just have your favorites, eh ?
Posted By: jodina
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Spettacolare!!!!!
Posted By: firefly.serenity
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Darn. I have been away from IFL for two weeks, and from the looks of things, the chatter has been better than ever. I can't believe that I missed the foosball argument. :)

This is a great shot! I am a HUGE fan of submissions that look like paintings, and this one gets pretty close. Congratulations on a fantastic submission, waveydavey!

Mods, please post another "controversial" piece soon - after spending 13 days with my in-laws, I'm ready to argue! :) Ha!
Posted By: Xinthose
about 13 years, 8 months ago
and faith, hope, and love abide
Posted By: dohlfhauldhagen
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Great picture ruined by too much processing. Would love to see the original!
Posted By: BenD
about 13 years, 8 months ago
@rejectEd

"No idea what Igor is on about (again)."

You probably don't know what he is talking about because you have little experience with post processing, which is why you think he is nit picking. He's not. Any photographer that has taken a digital darkroom class or is well trained in photoshop could point out the obvious editing mistakes in this image, not to exasperate the point anymore, though like everybody has said before me it is certainly a beautiful shot and composition.
about 13 years, 8 months ago
This is over processed HDR non-sense. The view is probably a nice one but this way of editing looks absolutely unnatural and dirty. Use a GND and upload with less changes again. I think the result will be good.

I recently notice that the quality of IFL gets more and more lost. It's really a pity.
Posted By: rejectEd
about 13 years, 8 months ago
@BenD

I know plenty about post processing, thanks. And I can also appreciate the fabulous wallpaper that waveydavey has submitted here. Unlike you and Mister Igor know it all.
You admit it's a beautiful shot and composition, why not just leave it at that and enjoy the result ?
Posted By: Tim H.
about 13 years, 8 months ago
To everyone who's on about this being ruined by overprocessing as well as all other similar comments in the recent past:

Out of respect for waveydavey in this particular submission, why not consider the possibility that he made this image look like this on purpose? Perhaps he spent a great deal of time trying to get the image to look exactly like this, right down to the last detail. I mean, is photography not a form of art? Do artists have to please every single human being?

Or better yet, do amateur artists have to please "professional" artists?

I apologize, but some of you act as though the purpose of these submissions is to please every single human being on the internet who comes to IFL. It's no wonder many of these people who have posted submissions don't respond to your comments! I wouldn't either!

I mean damn: when such a great deal of work was put into a photo as we are seeing with this one, what do you suppose the chances are that waveydavey tirelessly worked on it until he was 100% happy with it? Why else would he have submitted it? To be judged by us to see if it's worthy of being a wallpaper or something? Come on! It's just art! If he wanted help on how to improve it, then I think that he would have asked us for it.

Do some of you find it difficult to submit a photo because you're afraid others might not like it? I know I would, especially with the way some of you prefer to act like the ultimate judge of each submission. So why don't I submit something? Because I am not a photographer: I just appreciate everything for what it is. Who am I to judge another person's creation?

In closing, here's an analogy: I am a drummer, and I have 17 years of experience (I am damn close to being a true professional). If this were a site where each submission were a drum solo instead of a photograph, then would I make negative comments about every little detail that I judged to be a mistake? Would I tell that drummer what I disliked about it? Only if he/she asked me to. What about those times when I heard an "obvious" mistake? Well if it's obvious, then why should I mention it? I mean, if it's obvious, then surely the artist already knows about the said mistake and would probably prefer that everyone just ignore it! I mean, when I make a mistake, I hope with all my might that nobody mentions it!

That is all I have. I'm sorry, but this has just been bottling up and I don't have any room for more. So yeah, I've had enough of some of these snobbish comments. I love you guys, but damn: it's just art being posted on a free wallpaper website, y'know?

Please don't hate me for this. I wouldn't even bother if I didn't care.
Posted By: waveydavey
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Thanks for all the comments. Think I've started world war 3!!!! This image was something new for me and processed differently than I normally would do. It's not to everyone's tastes but if you show me an image on this or any other site on the web that is to EVERYONE'S taste I'll quite happy eat humble pie.


It was something new and I thought I'd put the image up anyway to see how popular it was and all I can say is that if it made it through to be chosen it must have had enough votes from proletariat to make me happy I uploaded it.

Thanks Tim H. For you support and I agree with what you are saying whole heartedly.




Cheers

Dave.
Posted By: waveydavey
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Sorry the above post was done on my iPhone which explains the poor spelling in the last paragraph..... It should have read as follows.........

It was something new and I thought I'd put the image up anyway to see how popular it was and all I can say is that if it made it through to be chosen it must have had enough votes from people to make me happy I uploaded it.



My apologies for any confusion.



Cheers

Dave.
Posted By: Chris Gin
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I understand what you're saying Tim, and I tend to agree about the whole not-giving-critique-unless-it's-asked-for thing (though sometimes I can't help myself either).

Having said that, let's use your analogy of a site for drum solos and imagine the site is renown for quality performances. Then over time the quality drops significantly so that a lot of front-page submissions aren't of professional quality. Sure music is subjective, but there are some basic technical aspects to it that every good performer masters, yet these are lacking in a lot of the recent solos (although technically flawed performances can still be enjoyable for people who aren't drummers themselves).

I'm just saying it's understandable that these flaws are pointed out by fellow musicians because of the standards that the site is used to.

Back to IFL, perhaps the goal of the site has changed from being one that has professional, top-quality wallpapers to one that has more variety and is more community-based. Fair enough if it is the case, but it'll just take time for people to adjust I guess.

On a related note, and I hope he doesn't mind me mentioning this, but Scott Kroeker (TheReal7) has withdrawn his art from IFL for this reason. I just hope other people don't follow suit.
This comment is rated: insightful
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Too much overprocessed.
Posted By: Stephan281094
about 13 years, 8 months ago
It might be overprocessed.. But that doesn't take away that I don't like it! :) I think you did a great job! Favorited!
Posted By: Xinthose
about 13 years, 8 months ago
my first impression is that this picture isn't real and does not look natural, which is kind of bad. it looks that way just a tad though; I would love to see some deep shadows and more a more natural look to it
Posted By: fantaxy
about 13 years, 8 months ago
@Chris

That is a bad news, I miss Joel Antunes's work too..
Posted By: Tim H.
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Chris Gin:

For positive reasons, I'm at a loss for words. So, I'll try to keep it simple: I am very grateful to you for saying that and also for the way you said it. Now I can finally clearly see what everyone else is seeing!

But I am also saddened to learn that I won't be seeing any more work from Joel. His photos were some of my absolute favorites!

Anyway, thank you again Chris!
Posted By: mandymandy
about 13 years, 8 months ago
Awesome i love the pic its rad
Posted By: Beltane
about 13 years, 8 months ago
I love this view; it's a spectacular shot. But I'm inclined to agree with a few of the commentators here that the image is over-processed. The clouds in particular show severe clamping artefacts. The sky should be vibrant and bright but the tonemapping has taken out all the contrast. There's a real gem of a photo here. I think it needs a bit more work to bring out its full potential.
Posted By: Treehugger
about 13 years, 7 months ago
This is a fantastic scene, and well shot. Not everyone is able to find places like this, so it's very special to have them brought to you in this way.

Igor was politely critical. Put your hand up if you've ever made a critique that everyone else was 100% satisfied with.

@Chris Gin: I'm so sad that TheReal7 is gone.. his works were my favourite.
Posted By: exilelrrp
about 10 years, 11 months ago
WoW! this a perfect place I would love to chill "smoke" & drink a cold one, watching this peaceful panoramic view! one of the best Wallpaper to have!

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