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Mac is Greater
My first actual try at making a "submission worthy" wallpaper. I used Photoshop CS3 to make it....and of course, on a Mac.
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As a Mac user, I'd never use this. I'm one of the few Mac users whom don't have an inflated ego and equally enjoy OS X and Windows.
I have two older PCs, and one Mac. I use my Mac more often, because I prefer its simplicity in its aesthetics and operation. But the PCs still have their uses. Don't bag on this particular person for displaying their affection for their computer. People don't do it for validation, they don't do it for insecurity reasons, they do it because they simply like the operating system/computer. It's the same reason people keep pictures of their kids in their wallet, or wear t-shirts with their favorite band on it. It sparks conversation; conversation(s) which may inspire someone else to look into that product (in this case, Macs). Fact is most average folk don't even know what a Mac computer looks like or how it works, because they're subject to PCs with Windows by default. And let's face it, nobody needs a Window > Mac = true wallpaper (by the way, the syntax is correct in over a dozen programming languages; whoever corrected it was obviously not a programmer because "==" is usually used to DEFINE a variable, not to display the comparison of two). But if someone decided to make one, more power to them. Fact is, does it affect you? No? Then... who really cares?
In fact no one mac can stand a pc that cost as much as a mac,...
mac rulez becouse the medium apple costs twice a computer and becouse ppl buy pc in stupid places like mediaworld where a pc worth 500$ is sold for 1000$...Let me build a pc costing the same as a mac that let's compare them!
Really? I think the MacMini Intel Core2Duo with 2gigs of ram for $499 can compare with a PC of similar price. In fact, I KNOW it can... I did the shopping before getting the Mini ;)
These long, off-topic debates are enervating and dilute the pure pleasure of artistic excellence we come here to enjoy and critique. I respectfully request IFL to reconsider this submission.
Let me close by saying I bear no malice toward @d2lil. I like your artwork--lettering and all. I would like to see more of it.
Thanks for listening.
This one is for the developers at WWDC this week. Nothing to get worked up over.
Check back later for something new :)
best, Jeff
i don't think most mac users are like that. i have a mac so obviously i enjoy macs over pcs, but i don't go around shouting about it. i would probably use this background if there were no words over it, but i'm not saying it isn't a great piece because it is; it just isn't my taste. oh, and to all the people saying that mac users are all big headed idiots: you are bigots and fantastic at stereotyping. pass that onto your children. -_-
Not to bite the hand that feeds us, but I think if you wanted to extend a tip of the hat to WWDC and Mac users in general, a statement such as "I love my Mac," would be less provocative than the one used by @d2lil. I use both platforms and recommend them to people accordingly to their needs
Even so, just to let you know my point of view, individuals who display bumper stickers such as "I Love My Russian Wolfhound or "Paperhangers Do It Standing on a Ladder." drive me nuts. I think that etiquette suggests that people shouldn't volunteer their taste unless asked.
Just one curmudgeon's point of view.
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=hxmtjjte2jn&thumb=4
Excellent work d2lil! I can't call it a true work of art, but it gets the message out loud and clear and it looks flashy! Well done dude!
Mac > pc = true how dumb omg
taking into account especially that this is false, not true
why post such wallpapers here, no idea
this site is not the right place to strike dispute between pc-mac users
I didn't not make this wallpaper to offend the PC users of the world. I simply made this to voice my own PERSONAL opinion of which computer I find superior. I am an IT professional and have to use a PC at work but at home and when it comes to my own personal money, I am all Mac. I use a Mac because over the years of using both PCs and Macs, the Mac has always been better in every application that I have ever needed. I apologize to those of you who do not think this is a worthy "work of art" to have been accepted by this site. The fact is...it was accepted and that is that. Again, I am not trying to attack people who favor the PC. This is something that I believe is true and if you don't agree then I am sorry you feel that way. Art was never meant to please everyone and I never said this was difficult to create nor did I claim to be an excellent artist.
To those of you who have expressed that you like it:
Thanks and I do appreciate your comments.
I appreciate InterfaceLIFT for accepting my work.
From a (this) graphic designer's perspective, this just doesn't hold much aesthetic value. A couple brush splatter Photoshop brushes in a few colors with grunge text just doesn't hold a lot of artistic weight in my view. The color choices are nice, but I'd like to see more depth to the piece. Work on layering things, experiment with blend modes. And please, don't use fonts with those insufferable filled in holes in the letters. I love the grunge style, but filled in fonts like that are highly distracting to my admittedly font-snobbish eye.
Are you sure to send your stupid wallpaper in the appropriate site ?
Go to macsites to laughing with fanatical users, not here.
I know some of you will rate this poor but this is how I feel and we all have a right to our personal opinion. Thank you
This states that PC is true (whatever that means) and that Mac is greater than PC which is TRUE (not sure what is greater than TRUE). What sort of respectable computer savvy user would place such failed logic on their desktop?
The more correct statement would be:
PUBLIC BOOLEAN IsPCBetter() {
IF (PC > MAC)
RETURN TRUE;
ELSE
RETURN FALSE;
}
note: PC and MAC are final integers
Therefore whether or not a PC is better is now up for interpretation.
Bless you Jeff for your patience.
Regardless of your position, this doesn't feel up to standards of this site even from a technical standpoint. It's lazy and simple, and anyone who would use it is just reinforcing the smug stereotype.
To the poster, congrats it got accepted, but honestly, all you and Jeff have done is lower my respect for this site.
"Ok look...
I didn't not make this wallpaper to offend the PC users of the world. I simply made this to voice my own PERSONAL opinion of which computer I find superior. I am an IT professional and have to use a PC at work but at home and when it comes to my own personal money, I am all Mac. I use a Mac because over the years of using both PCs and Macs, the Mac has always been better in every application that I have ever needed. I apologize to those of you who do not think this is a worthy "work of art" to have been accepted by this site. The fact is...it was accepted and that is that. Again, I am not trying to attack people who favor the PC. This is something that I believe is true and if you don't agree then I am sorry you feel that way. Art was never meant to please everyone and I never said this was difficult to create nor did I claim to be an excellent artist.
To those of you who have expressed that you like it:
Thanks and I do appreciate your comments.
I appreciate InterfaceLIFT for accepting my work."
I gave my opinion and shared a personal experience, what did I do to deserve the points I got taken away?? Jeff, please lock this up, this has gotten out of hand.
First and foremost, this is a work of art as equally deserving of as much respect as anything else on this site, it's not a competition.
Now for some logic... My Mac is running Leopard, XP, Vista, and 4 versions of linux at the same time. Within that, I'm running a video wallpaper (courtesy of Living Desktop) in HiDef, and I've been doing video editing in the process.
I've yet to see a PC for $1000 that hasn't blown up trying to keep up with such a task without major upgrades.
Computers, like anything, are a preference. I prefer my Mac.
Niko @ www.nikorocks.com
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Honestly, I think it's too grunge-ish to fit the sleek Mac theme.
What's up with THAT? I bought a Dell in 2000 and have been happy with there quality and service and Pricing ever sence.
Currently using the Beta Windows 7 Op Sys. It does what I want. I don't need a high dollar mac. OH by the way! the screen saver isn't worth arguing over. leave the politics out of art.
place this in front of a dirt poor person... do you think they'll start complaining of what computer better? this just shows how unbelievably materialistic we are.
it's called opinions people-- some people think differently than you, and the opposing sides need to accept those opinions.
i am visioning a -57 on this comment, but this is just my opinion *ahem* opinion. sorry for those of who realized i came on rather strong about this. i am not trying to offend any of you.
have a grand day.
I, personally, don't like the image, but I am certainly not going to declare war on someone's viewpoints. Leave that to the politicians!
What if I made a wallpaper that says Whites > Blacks = True
Sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone, that's just my opinion.
Think before you post, you obviously wanted to stir things up and the IFL team was happy to aid you (I wonder what computers they use?...)
Brendan Davis' statement is correct.
It was not a syntax error but it's appropriate to call it a semantic error.
All over a dang piece of wallpaper that you can choose to download or not. Shakes head and walks away.
2. i'm a pc user.. never seen a mac.. quite a rare thing in my country
3. downloaded it.. put it on my desktop.. looks really great...
This is so stupid the everyone is making a big fuss, on a wallpaper site! lol
That said, I'll jump in the computer debate. I don't like the blood sport, but I find the actual discussion to be pretty enjoyable, even if I'm writing into a black hole.
Guys, the "what fits your needs" argument expired about a decade ago. Not just because Macs really can do virtually anything PCs can do, but because of something simpler: Macs have been able to natively run Windows and Linux for years. So, should you find some obscure operation that simply cannot happen in Leopard, it's not a deal breaker.
"Costs more" is also bunk. Mac resale value is exponentially higher than any PC. Your money is not just going toward a "pretty case", as many like to say... It's actually a wise investment. I'll bet many of you don't know how much 5-6 year old Powerbooks can go for on eBay. Yes, some 17" models are inching close to $1k. Show me a 2003 laptop that can fetch that much. Better yet, explain why resale value doesn't matter. Considering only the upfront cost is almost childish.
Even barring that, if you want to go head-to-head with raw components, you're not allowed to leave things out like the LED / S-IPS panel, webcam, mouse / keyboard, seamless industrial design, etc, etc... and yes, total specs -- add it ALL up: screen size, processing power, RAM, HD, video, ports, software, build quality, etc, etc. Yes, all this stuff is worth money. You'd be surprised how the pound for pound price is sometimes LESS than off-the-shelf PCs. Of course, that leaves out the undeniably more stable and powerful (and more attractive) OS in Mac that has bested its competitors on virtually every front since 10.2. Except perhaps gaming -- is that the crux? (But wait, Mac runs Windows...)
The most interesting part of this whole thing is that Mac still has only 9% market share. Graph that. Microsoft retains 90%. Yet some here are likening Apple to Big Brother or some viral religion. You can't be serious? Do you want me to pull some quick stats on the global believer / atheist ratio? It might threaten your premise.
Really, I think the PC ammo is gone. Now you guys are just going ad hominem. Which I'll never understand, because there is a fantastic experience in Mac and you're avoiding it because of some high school aversion to iPod commercials and coffee shop Macbooks. Did you ever stop to think that maybe there IS something behind the hype? Have you ever used Logic? Safari? Finder? Sometimes a popular thing is good for a reason. You know, there was a time when Hendrix and Led Zeppelin and The Beatles ruled the radio... Toyotas are popular too, and they're a lot better than GMs. Should I go on?
Look people... the point of this site is to upload wallpapers. D2lil posted a wallpaper that some of you have criticized and others have defended. OBVIOUSLY, this is a debate that will out-live most of us. The reality however is that this is a wallpaper submission. Nothing more. Like it or not, it's here for you to view and ponder.
I for one don't mind it. It's not my favorite, but it's not the worst thing I've seen posted on here either.
Now... move on people. Move on.
One way to create an infinite loop. :)
Also, I think the entire point of this wallpaper was to generate just this kind of response... I mean this wallpaper has more comments than I have seen in a long time... Also, how many of you probably pasted it to a friend and said "can you believe this!" (free advertising)
"OMG what is this guy's problem, saying that my machine is better than a pc!! Gah, the nerve!"
Criticisms of commercial-fanaticism aside, the wallpaper is a terrible piece. You used the free ps font brush pack everyone uses and then tacked on three different obviously-colored splatters which you didn't even make on an amalgamation of mathematics and "programming" that doesn't even compute. Fail. The quality of the wallpapers has been wildly fluctuating on this site.
Also, your statement about "preferential treatment" means nothing...
Is there a top secret cpu faster than a core i7 extreme that is made exclusively for Macs? Funny, cause I haven't seen it...
That is over TWICE the cost of what I built my PC for. So, hey, if you know nothing about computers and make a ton of money, feel free to buy a Mac and love it! But please, don't try to tell me it is better than a PC...
Grow up D2LIL !!
And your Apology was pathetic as well. Oh I didn't mean to insult anyone when you knew very well it would Insult people in the first place.
You are just another of Apple's TOOLS and a victim of Apple Marketing.
As for gaming.....Apple is the laughing stalk of the industry.
Statements made about this piece lacking a certain levels of quality, are right on. By no means am I saying you can't make something beautiful with even a single typeface but this is literally a grunge font and a couple of brush strokes attached to failed logic. The piece itself seems to voice the opinion that MAC is better then WINDOWS but completely disregards MACS brand appeal.
I'm sure a lot of us have submitted work that has much more thought and artistic value as this and have been shot down and that's why I think this piece got so many comments.
I come here daily to see literally the best collection of hi-resolution wallpapers on the internet and for something like this to make it to the front page blew my mind.
FYI: I use a MAC all day as a graphic designer then come home to a Windows based PC and I don't prefer either. They are both good for different things. Why can't people see the merit in the fact that we have choices.
cause im not gonna lie, everyone is completely biased. i dont give a sh*t what kind of OS u use. its like asking what kind of toilet paper u use or some random bullcorn. i think any wallpaper that gets this much attention and creates such "controversy" is worth at least saving. haha.
peace out.
Less of the biased wallpapers please IFL.
I'll also add that I was disappointed to see such a WP posted on here. This isn't the place for this kind of WP IMO. On a mac fanboy site maybe but not here. I have lost a little confidence in IFL for posting this one. Sorry.
/SMUG ALERT!
Just an observation.
As far as the fanboyism: To each his own. My personal opinion is that Macs are grossly overpriced. Not to mention that for each and every application on a mac, you can find about a hundred more on windows that do the same exact thing.
I built a pc for $350 about two months ago and I can play Crysis on high at 1920x1080 resolution... haha something that you can't do on ANY mac because these games won't even run on them.
When it's all said and done you're getting twice the power for the same price by going PC.
Just a side note, but the "I'm a Mac" ads crack me up because some of them are straight up lies. There's a reason why Microsoft has the majority of the market share.
It is a simple wallpaper that has text in a format that you see all the time due to the internet and texting. I do not understand how it is so "mean".
Is everyone here that old and behind the times? I had NO idea Microsoft users were so scared out of their mind of Apple users.
When people come up to them and say "Why would you do such a thing?!" it is not because they are scared of them... ;)
@Centarui, the Xeon offered by Mac is simply the server version of the core i7 920. It is designed for server application, not home users. No one buys a mac to be a server that I know of. The only reason it is offered is because Mac can make even more money off of people who think that they are getting some huge performance increase by getting a Xeon (a.k.a. you). Look at some benchmarks between Xeons and core i7's sometime, and decide if it is worth a 400% increase in price.
Even WITH the exact same Xeon CPU, to build the equivalent of a $3,800 Mac Pro on Newegg would cost less than $1,900.
The same thing happens with high end pre-built PC's (huge price mark-ups). A wallpaper saying "Alienware>Prebuilt=true" would be just as stupid...
As of 2009, a personal computer may be a desktop computer, a laptop computer or a tablet computer. The most common operating systems for personal computers are Microsoft Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
For the conclusion I think the right statement here is "(MAC = PC) = TRUE". Why, because your MAC is also your Personal Computer(PC). Well unless Your MAC does not have Central Processing Unit(Processor), Motherboard, Memory Card, Hard Disk, Video Card, Optical Disc(CD-ROM, DVD-Rom etc.), Keyboard, Pointing Device(Mouse) and Operating System(OS) you cannot call that a PC.
Reference : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
About the WP, it is nice but very simple.
What you bought hasn't existed on Mac in eons. That's like saying, "I bought a PC, but Windows ME had to look for Windows 95 drivers."
Folks, let's not mistake this wallpaper for a contestant in an art contest, or a battle of PC vs. Mac. Seriously -- it's more than obvious that the Mac users don't care and feel the wallpaper is either good or bad, and that's it's all preference... while the PC users have nothing but negative comments to make.
(Psych 101 -- when you're miserable, it's not everyone else's fault.) ;-)
Less than impressive and doesn't deserve to be on here.
"This isn't and wasn't the best I can do in Photoshop. It is just a simple wallpaper that I made and decided to submit."
So why post this dross if you can better ? As flame bait is my guess.
Yes, you caught some big ones today but your image still sucks.
As for the Mac>PC thing ? If I had the dough I would get a Mac but, £ for £, the PC creams all over it.
Really? I think the MacMini Intel Core2Duo with 2gigs of ram for $499 can compare with a PC of similar price. In fact, I KNOW it can... I did the shopping before getting the Mini ;)"
No, it really can't. You're just paying for aesthetics there. Seriously, you could build a high end PC for $500 that would just obliterate a mac mini in all regards but size, but that shouldn't be a problem since a mac mini is not a portable pc either.
how can this "wallpaper" be accepted? as someone else said. there is NO way the creator/IFL team would not have guessed that this would spark an argument.
And regardless of the mac vs PC argument, other than that nothing special in this wallpaper just a splatter of colours with every photoshop user can do.
finally, PC pwns MAC
As for the OS war, I have ALWAYS said:
Atari 800 > Commodore 64.
OS X > Vista (for the average user). PC hardware >>>>> Mac hardware.
And beizbu, I haven't restarted my THREE AND A HALF YEAR OLD PC in A MONTH. It's a prebuilt one, not a custom built one.
Overall, they both have their ups and downs - and I feel like Macs aren't worth the 60%(Macbook)-400% (Mac Pro) premium they put on their stuff. I enjoy OS X, I enjoy working on a Mac (as long as they don't use Mighty Mouse... what an abomination), but I won't pay for one because I can get the ultimate studio PC for a fourth of the price, period. I agree with Lostnumber:
"Lame wallpaper that's just started a flamewar."
I am, and will always be, a PC user who forthrightly believes that Macs are oversized paperweights for several reasons.
Being a Mechanical Engineer, I use programs (Solidworks, Inventor, Pro-E) that are most hardware intensive programs available when designing an assembly of a new car from Infiniti. Macs are looked upon as a joke to the Engineering community.
Every PC has its flaws; its just that Macs have more. Viruses, slow processing, etc., cannot be blamed on the computer itself; it has more to do with the user than the computer. PCs are far more superior to that of Macs based on power, affordability, and third-party support.
If this is not enough information to get my point across, then maybe this will help. My brother is a Web Designer for Amazon. Over at Amazon, all they use are PCs running Windows Vista or Xp. Mac, once again, is looked upon as a joke to many different communities.
But colleand, what about everyday users?
This can be simply answered. Spend $1,000 and buy yourself a nice PC running Windows Vista. Dont even consider a Mac. They look terrible, compute slower than PCs, play games horribly, have bad layouts and interface, have poorly designed components, and are extremely overpriced for an ugly paperweight. What else do you need? A computer that has the small monitor attached to the computer itself so its nearly impossible to move around? Great idea, Apple ..
I will give d2lil this; they are good for ONE thing; image creating/editing, which is shown in this overly-simple excuse for a wallpaper. It looks like you used a Mac to create that disastrous wallpaper. Macs are garbage.
Cheers,
colleand
lol
ho god, i wish i have a pc with vista!!! the most powerfull and perfect OS! oh god!
kids...
lol
And its even funnier see how windows users are easily offended.
I think the windows is like the users: unstable
...
lol
Like previously stated from other users, it is the idiotic user that gets viruses and malware. Don't be foolish to say that Macs are immune to viruses. Even Crapple recommends you use a antivirus program for your Macs. The reason why you switched to a Mac is simple, you were just not the brightest person who allowed himself to get viruses in the first place and blamed the machine, not yourself. OSX is a dumbed down operating system for novice users! Try a decent antivirus software and common sense. I have never gotten a virus, crashed or had a blue screen in Vista. I can't remember the last time it happened in XP. Must of been a few years.
Crapple also has about 8% of the market share, about the same a couple of years ago. Not much growth there as you state. More viruses are made to target the greater market share which is obviously Windows by a huge margin. iPhones were great. I actually had the first gen. I upgraded to a Android platform phone which is slowly creeping up on the smart phone market share. Analysts predict the Android will surpass the iPhone OS in terms of features, performance, and market share very soon.
Macs are PCs. They share the exact same components. They use a Intel processor ffs. You need to boot to Windows if you want to run a game (turns it into a PC!). The only thing that would differentiate the two is the aluminum wraped around it which costs somewhere between $500-$2000 depending on the model of the Mac. Hefty premium for aluminum no? So you bought a underpowered computer with a huge price premium for a shiny case. Don't go around and troll Windows users to justify your stupid purchase. Just make a smarter decision next time. Buy a PC and install OSX if you really want a dumbed down operating system that will limit what you can do. With the money saved, go out on a date for once. Thanks for playing.
This comment thread has to stop. The flame war has to stop. No one cares what you have to say whether it's pro-mac or pro-windows. Nothing you say here is going to change anybody's mind.
Somehow, I've read through all the comments here and I also feel that this wallpaper doesn't belong here.
@ d2lil: while I appreciate your apology and statement that it's merely an expression of an opinion, your wallpaper doesn't belong here. I come to InterfaceLIFT to peruse the many fantastic artistic wallpapers that transcend personal preference. There have been a couple Apple themed wallpapers here that either featured the logo, or a mac itself, but they stand objectively as works of art. They make no statement and don't have 100+ comments that are irrelevant to the actual wallpaper.
You've stated that this isn't your best work, and I'm sad to hear that. I'm sure many people here who have put in a lot of work in their HDR photographs, or high quality digital artwork don't appreciate it either.
I'm sad to see that this actually became a flame war in the first place. Let's stop this nonsense now, seriously before we all embarrass ourselves.
I'm no moderator, but I'd like to declare this comment thread closed to any comments related to the 'mac vs windows' argument.
Please.
In respect to my fellow InterfaceLIFT-ers (be you a mac or windows user.)
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Just kidding. Your submission is occupying the desktop of my 13-inch unibody as we speak.